Here, There, and Back Again
Welcome to the chaotic, coffee-fueled corner of the internet where three middle-class Midwest moms spill the tea (and occasionally the wine) on all things dark, spooky, and downright hilarious.
We’re your new best friends who love diving deep into true crime cases, Missouri urban legends, haunted hotspots across the Ozarks, ghost stories that’ll make you sleep with the lights on, and every creepy paranormal encounter we can get our hands on. One minute we’re breaking down a chilling cold case or the latest Bigfoot sighting in the Show-Me State, and the next we’re ranking the best gas-station snacks or telling you about that one Tom Foolery night that ended with us trying (and failing) to summon a spirit with boxed wine and a Ouija board made of cardboard.
Expect unfiltered mom talk, zero pretense, plenty of cussing, and the occasional heavy topic (because life, loss, mental health ) handled with real heart. If you like your podcasts equal parts spooky, silly, and sisterhood, you’ve found your people.
Grab your favorite drink, lock the doors, and come hang out with three Midwest mamas who refuse to act their age. New episodes every week — because the ghosts (and the group chat) never sleep.
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Contact
Email: herethereandbackagain25@gmail.com
Tom Foolery Form: https://form.jotform.com/250725383034049
Supernatural Form:https://form.jotform.com/250726134220041
Episodes

Jul 23, 2025
Jul 23, 2025
40 min
Tarah, Ashley, and Steph cover the Missouri true crime cases of Pam Hupp, Ben Renick, and The Package Killer
Have a true crime in or around Missouri you want us to cover? Email us at herethereandbackagain25@gmail.com
Links
https://www.nbcnews.com/thethingaboutpam
https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/5-things-to-know-about-pam-hupp-and-the-murder-of-betsy-faria
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/true-crime/thing-about-pam-hupp-real-story-st-louis-lincoln-county/63-0b97f3b6-276c-4909-b593-6b8351cda20c
https://time.com/6156033/the-thing-about-pam-renee-zellweger-true-story/
https://nbcuniversalnewsgroup.com/nbcnews/2022/04/13/new-friday-dateline-nbc-keith-morrison-reports-on-the-latest-twists-turns-in-the-case-of-pam-hupp-accused-of-killing-her-close-friend/
https://www.10minutemurder.com/blog/snakes-lies-and-murder-the-ben-renick-story/

Jul 18, 2025
Jul 18, 2025
59 min
Tarah, Ashley, and Steph have a night to themselves after a short vacation with the families. They talk about golf, sad nightmares, and how Tarah may have scared the poor air conditioning repair guy.
Thank you for listening to Here, There, and Back Again. If you want to add to our madness and have TomFoolery stories of your own, fill out our Tom Foolery Form linked in the description or email us at herethereandbackagain25@gmail.com.

Jul 16, 2025
Jul 16, 2025
35 min
Steph, Ashley, and Tarah share stories about haunted places in Missouri. Steph tells about Hitchhike Annie and the Bellefontaine Cemetery, Ashley dives into the Harney Mansion, and Tarah explains how the entire Ironton/Arcadia area is haunted.
Want your story shared? Email us at herethereandbackagain25@gmail.com or fill out the Supernatural Form.
Links
https://www.paranormaltaskforce.com/harney1.html

Jul 11, 2025
Jul 11, 2025
1 hr 4 min
Tarah invites Brandi and Dayla back to discuss the top down issue of how teachers are viewed and treated like children.
Email: herethereandbackagain25@gmail.com

Jul 9, 2025
Jul 9, 2025
37 min
Tarah, Steph, and Ashley each share a stories about a Missouri Monster. They cover the Ozark Howler, Moth Man, and Brownies
Want your story shared? Email us at herethereandbackagain25@gmail.com or fill out the Supernatural Form.

Jul 4, 2025
Jul 4, 2025
47 min
Tarah, Ashley, and Steph talk about Golf and AI after drinking Mimosas.
Thank you for listening to Here, There, and Back Again. If you want to add to our madness and have TomFoolery stories of your own, fill out our Tom Foolery Form linked in the description or email us at herethereandbackagain25@gmail.com.

Jul 2, 2025
Jul 2, 2025
53 min
Tarah, Ashley, and Steph share the unsolved cases of Ricky McCormick, the Zodiac Killer, and the Tylenol Murders
Email:herethereandbackagain25@gmail.com

Jun 27, 2025
Jun 27, 2025
55 min
Tarah invites teachers Dayla and Brandi on to discuss Missouri Education and why they think most programs/resources/methods that are pushed by the state actually go against the science of learning.
Email: herethereandbackagain25@gmail.com
Links
https://ies.ed.gov/sites/default/files/migrated/nces_pubs/ncee/pdf/20094038.pdf
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/having-math-class-in-the-morning-could-lead-to-better-student-performance/2016/04
https://kids.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frym.2020.00048
https://ece.umd.edu/news/story/the-brain-makes-sense-of-math-and-language-in-different-ways#:~:text=In%20contrast%2C%20mathematical%20processing%20is%20more%20widespread,lobes%20of%20both%20left%20and%20right%20hemispheres.&text=In%20addition%2C%20the%20researchers%20ound%20the%20target,left%20superior%20parietal%20areas%20of%20the%20brain.
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/having-math-class-in-the-morning-could-lead-to-better-student-performance/2016/04#:~:text=Those%20with%20early%20morning%20math,should%20go%20up%20or%20down.%E2%80%9D
https://www.greatschools.org/gk/parenting/reading/poor-reading-skills-federal-initiatives/
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/long-term-memory
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/short-term-memory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzFQwFfXVMI
https://www.educationnext.org/stubborn-myth-learning-styles-state-teacher-license-prep-materials-debunked-theory/
https://www.educationnext.org/stubborn-myth-learning-styles-state-teacher-license-prep-materials-debunked-theory/
https://poorvucenter.yale.edu/LearningStylesMyth
https://carlhendrick.substack.com/p/the-learning-styles-illusion-debunking
https://www.novakeducation.com/blog/learning-styles-vs-multiple-intelligences#:~:text=There%20is%20just%20one%20problem,lead%20to%20better%20learning%20outcomes.
https://onlineteaching.umich.edu/articles/the-myth-of-learning-styles/
https://edsource.org/2022/a-movement-rises-to-change-the-teaching-of-reading/6759
https://www.coreknowledge.org/the-shortcomings-of-lucy-calkinss-units-of-study/
https://www.edutopia.org/article/neuroscience-behind-productive-struggle/

Jun 26, 2025
Jun 26, 2025
1 min
I wanted to give a little heads up that on the Fridays that we don't do Tom Foolery I will be doing a mini-series on public education.

Jun 25, 2025
Jun 25, 2025
53 min
Tarah give a brief history lesson about how methamphetamine made it to and flourished in Missouri. She invites her friend Beth on to give some insight and share stories of loved ones.
Links
(Podcast suggestion) https://dailyyonder.com/podcasts/rural-remix/home-cooked/
https://livingatreflections.com/methamphetamine-vs-dexamphetamine-whats-the-difference/
https://medlineplus.gov/ency/patientinstructions/000792.htm
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